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Dalton Conley
University Professor
New York University
(academic program)


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by Deb on July 9, 2007 - 12:32

I love this idea! To turn things upside down by monetizing good health. Why not add education? Our society is so skewed that health and education are about the only two things not monetized right now, and therefore, unfortunately, not valued.

More research on this groundbreaking idea would be wonderful.
Best of luck, Deb

Deb Levine, Exec. Director
ISIS, Inc.
www.isis-inc.org

by tahn on July 2, 2007 - 16:31

Dear Dr. Conley,

There were some additional points that my colleagues have brought up and I am sharing their questions with you. Please take a moment to provide us more information.

Do we really want to monetize lives and health status like this to be traded on the open market? How exactly does the rise and fall of these futures actually incentivize governments to act? And how do we know that these actions work, as opposed to some other confounding effect?

The example of Enron is ironic – they played the market and lost billions of dollars selling futures. Unsure if they provide a strong track record, even if people currently sell weather and disaster futures on the open market (a true fact).

We thank you in advance for your response!
The Changemakers Team

by daltonconley on July 4, 2007 - 07:57

The idea is not to price -- or buy or sell, for that matter -- lives and health status of individuals. The bond market is not buying or selling productive activity in the economy. The yield curve (the plot of various bond interest rates by length of bond term), for instance, is read as an indicator of the robustness of the economy. The fact that there are financial instruments that trade on the direction that bond yields will go sums the knowledge of the financial marketplace in this area. So, I am not advocating monetizing individuals' lives and health statuses. Rather, I am proposing that there be established a market in predicting population health. All this does is provide more information.

Governments (and private investors) will be incentived to act in two ways...(Pasted from my earlier response)
Well, politicians naturally follow polls (probably to a fault). More recently, candidates are following the election markets (which are published daily on Slate.com) and, of course, the stock and bond markets. My hope is that these market indicators will be another key datum to which they are slavishly devoted.

A second answer is that if we can get big money in the markets, then, of course, they will get lots of attention. There are two types of big money, private and public. If pension fund managers or hedge fund managers, for instance, start putting funds there as an investment, then the pols will pay attention pretty darn quickly. Also, if ths U.S. does end up going the route of Chile in privatizing the pension system (or investing public funds into the private market), this might be a worth-while investment of public funds. In fact, it can be seen as a compromise position between those who want the Medicare and social security trust funds invested in private markets (by individuals or by the government itself) and those who care about progressive causes.

The point about knowing whether these actions work: Of course, establishing pure cause and effect in any realm of social life is fraught with difficulty. However, markets have long been shown to be better prediction mechanisms than polls, experts or other forecasting tools. They do this by aggregating "hidden" information . So, if the price of a "child vitality" future rises, a politician may take credit for its rise when she had nothing to do with the effect. Let them. I am not proposing to end politician's false-credit taking!

Enron is another case entirely. It was a single company trading electricity rights in quasi-monopoly fashion. And was committing accounting fraud. While fraud is always a bad thing, the consequences of Enron going belly up would have been less severe if 1) there were stricter rules in place about how much of a company's pension fund can be invested in itself --meaning that they can't put such a high percentage in their own stock or company options (something that I have advocated elsewhere). Then, the workers would not have lost their life savings since the 401k would have been--by law--diversified. 2) If there were many players in the futures market, then they would not have been able to arbitrage in the way they did.

As much as Enron is an example of corporate abuse, there are energy futures being traded all the time. Airlines buy feul futures contracts to stabilize their fuel costs in order to make budget projections in a world of highly volatile oil prices.

by tahn on June 12, 2007 - 11:49

Dear Dr. Conley:

This is indeed a revolutionary idea, but my question lies in the implementation side of things. I see that it is at a nascent stage and I would love to get more info on what your plans are to get the government to actually buy into the market scheme. I suppose I am questioning the government's incentive to buy into a certain type of policy when we are facing transitions in Congress now on a fairly regular basis. I would love to hear more, I think there is a very interesting idea here and I would like a bit more meat on what your team will do to make it happen.

Best regards,

Tyler Ahn
Changemakers

by daltonconley on June 15, 2007 - 19:57

Well, politicians naturally follow polls (probably to a fault). More recently, candidates are following the election markets (which are published daily on Slate.com) and, of course, the stock and bond markets. My hope is that these market indicators will be another key datum to which they are slavishly devoted.

A second answer is that if we can get big money in the markets, then, of course, they will get lots of attention. There are two types of big money, private and public. If pension fund managers or hedge fund managers, for instance, start putting funds there as an investment, then the pols will pay attention pretty darn quickly. Also, if ths U.S. does end up going the route of Chile in privatizing the pension system (or investing public funds into the private market), this might be a worth-while investment of public funds. In fact, it can be seen as a compromise position between those who want the Medicare and social security trust funds invested in private markets (by individuals or by the government itself) and those who care about progressive causes. Hope this addresses your concerns... Happy to answer more, though you were right in pointing out that this is at a very nascent stage... Thanks for your comment