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Janet Youngblood
Planning Analyst Health Care
SUNY at Stony Brook
(University)
jyoungblood@notes.cc.sunysb.edu
SUNY at Stony Brook,HSC Level 4, Room 255, Stony Brook, NY 11794-8430
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by Charles Beauchamp on July 21, 2007 - 00:28

The VA healthcare system has VISN's. Some of the VISN's have contracted with dshi systems (www.dshisystems.com) to do telephone care. dshi systems has contracted with a Florida university to encourage online self-review:

Journal of American College Health
Issue: Volume 54, Number 5 / March-April 2006
Pages: 289 - 294

Web-Based Triage in a College Health Setting

Mary Lou Sole A1, Patricia L. Stuart A2, Michael Deichen A2

A1 University of Central Florida School of Nursing, Orlando
A2 University of Central Florida Student Health Services, Orlando

Abstract:

The authors describe the initiation and use of a Web-based triage system in a college health setting. During the first 4 months of implementation, the system recorded 1,290 encounters. More women accessed the system (70%); the average age was 21.8 years. The Web-based triage system advised the majority of students to seek care within 24 hours; however, it recommended self-care management in 22.7% of encounters. Sore throat was the most frequent chief complaint (14.2%). A subset of 59 students received treatment at student health services after requesting an appointment via e-mail. The authors used kappa statistics to compare congruence between chief complaint and 24/7 WebMed classification (? = .94), between chief complaint and student health center diagnosis (? = .91), and between 24/7 WebMed classification and student health center diagnosis (? = .89). Initial evaluation showed high use and good accuracy of Web-based triage. This service provides education and advice to students about their health care concerns.

Those kappa scores are pretty high!

I do not know if data from VA VISN's has been published but that could be another source of verification.

Can this go international - Spechen Sie mit Folk auf Deutschland:
Als Beispiel soll die amerikanische DSHI Software näher erläutert werden, die eigens
The DSHI software has been converted to German and is apparently being used there.

However, an important point is there has to be an intermediary, a nurse or other trained professional, who can assist the patient in the telemedicine diagnostic process. And, this is for getting at diagnostic pointers, not necessarily THE DIAGNOSIS. There has to be a lot of self care stuff built in up front as has been done by the DSHI people (the originator of which is an Emergency Room academic who first published a cunsumer oriented CD-ROM - "Dr. Schueler's....") I have used the three CD-ROM series as a teaching tool with Duke medical students about 10 years ago and have followed the evolution of the DSHI telemedicine effort with interest as a full time VA doc for many years, recently retired. I have no financial interest in DSHI or any telemedicine software, or in any software for that matter.

I do think it is possible to unite the DSHI software with VA's VisTa (as DSHI system has already done with another vendor's help). VA's VisTA has been open-sourced in Vista-Office with private vendor support.

So, this project is feasible in a pilot with the following components:
1) properly trained telemedicine interviewers
2) properly educated consumers with some background education about their health, risk factors and symptoms that are "red flags" for futher consultation....etc
3) a system of telemedicine arranged in regions as mentioned in this proposal as has been done in VA VISN's.
4) a way to connect with small practice settings (as compared to college campuses or VA facilities) so that the telephone interview data do get reviewed by MD's or others who can pursue matters further
5) a way to systematically collect the patients history of present illness in a way that addresses the qualitative aspects of diagnosis that is based more on chronological reasoning than the answers to specific questions (about like a pertinent review of systems for specific well definable "complaints")
6) a way to annotate a person's "Problem List" on the web record from the data collected by the system so that, in turn, could be seen in subsequent encounters.
7) other connections necessary to make this as comprehensive as the proposer would like it to be - such as to DXPlain, a differential diagnosis program available to health care professionals on www.merckmedicus.com

by JYoungblood on June 21, 2007 - 12:38

Janet W. Youngblood, MA, MBA, Ed.D.

http://citeseer.ist.psu.edu/context/115641/0

Hi:

Prior comments had wondered if computer diagnostics was sufficiently advanced. The above link leads to multiple discussions of evidence based computer diagnostics. This area needs further development which would occur if it was used widely for computer based, telehealth insurance and diagnosis of illnesses.
Again, this systems approach removes the problem of health care professional shortages.

Best regards,
Janet Youngblood

by JYoungblood on June 19, 2007 - 12:34

Janet W. Youngblood, MA, MBA, Ed.D.

Hi:

Thank you for your comment.

In fact, diagnostic procedures by computer based on criteria that is gathered through telehealth machines is very sophisticated. I do not have the citation, but Scientific American published a detailed explanation of how computer assessment based on diagnostic criteria gathered systematically, was more accurate than physician diagnosis.

Telehealth machines gather blood pressure, sugar glucose, blood measures, blood pressure, body temperature and, depending on the sophistication of the machines that would be attached to a computer, gather multiple diagnostic criteria. the information is sent via the internet to diagnostic centers. Individuals who have one x-ray machine available can also have x-rays sent via digital technology to physicians anywhere for interpretation.

The point, I think, is that this is a disruptive way of looking at diagnosis and treatment. It uses the internet to connect isolated individuals with chronic conditions or emergency conditions who do not have access to health care professionals and gives them a diagnosis.

Diagnosis has always been viewed as an art, but research has demonstrated that computer analysis of results gathered systematicall, input to a diagnostic software program and analysed can equal or succeed accuracy of diagnosis done by trained physicians diagnosing in person.

For whatever reason this fact is not widely disseminated.

Again, situations need to be diagnosed. If the diagnosis is that the individual can be treated with medicine, the order is placed and the medicine is delivered to the individual using whatever mechanisms are available at that location. If the diagnosis indicates the individual needs to be seen by a physician for invasive treatment of some kind, for example clean a wound for infection; remove an obstruction; hydrate the person with an IV, etc. then the individual knows that they need to seek out whatever possible health care personnel is local.

One can see that the number of physician/nurse practitioner visits would be dramatically reduced. Individuals with conditions that require regular medication and occasional monitoring could be well cared for remotely. Individuals with emergency conditions needing immediate treatment would know that they have to seek out and find actual health care settings in which they could find invasive treatments.

Diabetes, congestive heart failure, heart disease, pulmonary disease, etc. are chronic conditions that can be successfully monitored and treated remotely. the diagnosis of these conditions can be made remotely in most cases.

The idea is to sort out a huge population of people into those needing to actually see a person for care and those needing monitoring and medication.

Nurses can do 95% of the monitoring and prescribing. Physicians could do the 5% of emergency or invasive treatment.

As mentioned, the internet opens up an international health insurance option for those able to enroll in this system. Poor countries can be "insured" for this through wealthy donations that actually go directly to the purpose of the funds because they go to the insuring "system." Telehealth centers are placed periodically throughout poor countries or individuals are issued the telehealth system when they purchase the computer or are given their system locally through NGO's etc.

It does not have to be healthcare provided through the government. for example, the south Bronx in the US could be outfitted in this way. The telehealth centers would have insured patients through the international telehealth "My Neighborhood Health Care" system. People providing the care would get paid after being hired for this aspect of medical work by the providers. The system would provide regional physicians who might, for that matter, make house calls since the number of people needing personal care would drop dramatically.

There are abundant health care providers who are underutilized world wide; the cost of physicians able to provide invasive procedures as well as diagnosis is exhorbitant. Health care in countries such as the US is not affordable for most people and is not delivered efficiently.

As for electronic medical records, the state of Georgia and Indiana are leaders in this field and have implemented very successful ehealth programs. The ehealth initiative is dealing with issues of standardization etc. However, if a large company, such as Microsoft or Apple were to issue the integrated system as they have done with "music" downloads, they could provide the ehealth medical record standards and systems; health insurance etc. and the approach could be worldwide.

I think if those able to put together world wide internet protocols would partner with the telecommunications, telehealth and computer companies under the umbrella of a division of one of these large companies, the system would be feasible and would work well. as experience with it was gained, problems would be ironed out. shortages would be met.

Right now healthcare is simply not a system.

I appreciate your feedback and hope I have addressed some of your questions. I will try to locate the "diagnostic" article I mention earlier and send it to you. the ehealth organization in DC, Janet Marchiboda President are implementing ehealth medical records and personal medical record systems nationally moving to the personal medical record model.

Telehealth is far advanced and the equipment is now produced by multiple companies.

we need the larger computer organization to package the system and insure the individuals world-wide.
J

by tahn on June 18, 2007 - 15:08

In theory this idea might eventually work, but there may be too many technological black boxes needed to make it work. The diagnostic technology is not there, and it assumes a level of almost magical efficacy of electronic medical records that is currently not supported by the evidence in the scientific literature. Is there a component to the project that may help overcome this limitation?

Thank you,
Changemakers Team